Tuesday, April 04, 2006

How To Be A Good Christian Wife

A couple years ago I was bombarded with emails asking me how to please both Jesus and your Husband. I came up with a list for these ladies and it seemed to help.

I've re-written the list and I hope it helps as many women reading this as it has helped in the past.

1. Always be up before your Husband in the morning so you can have his paper and his breakfast ready for him when he wakes. Although it is the morning, there is no need to be slovenly, always make sure you are showered and dressed with your hair fixed and your make-up on. ALWAYS serve fresh orange juice. Only whores use frozen.

2. DO NOT sit down at breakfast. Your Husband will be trying to read the morning paper and the sound of your chair scraping on the floor will be a distraction to him as you get up and down to fetch him more biscuits or find his briefcase for him.

3. DO NOT be a clingy wife! Your Husband has a lot on his mind in the morning, planning out his busy day. Do not try to engage him in conversation about what your plans for the day are or other trivial matters. Always walk him to the door. Make sure to carry with you any of the things he has forgetton so he doesn't need to go back for them. Offer yourself for a kiss, but if he is too busy to notice DO NOT POUT. He has a lot of responsibility and the morning is not the time for feminine hysterics.

4. DO NOT CALL YOUR HUSBAND AT WORK. Nothing will distract him from his responsibilities at work faster than trying to deal with yours as well. It can wait. In the case of an actual emergency, of course, calling him at work is necessary. PMS induced crying jags are not emergencies.

5. Spend your day cooking and cleaning. There is no excuse for anything other than a spotless house. Filth is for pigs not humans and cleaning top to bottom everyday is a good use of your time as well as good exercise. Bake lots of cookies and cakes and treats. ALWAYS REMEMBER a fat Husband is a faithful Husband.

6. When your Husband gets home from work, do not jump him with problems you've had during the day, or questions about his day. He needs time to relax and wind down. Make sure the TV remote is next to his chair and the batteries are fresh. Once he walks in the door, ladies...turn OFF the soaps and talk shows.

7. Have a snack ready for him to eat as you finish dinner. If he is not happy with your choice of snack DO NOT POUT, it's your fault. He's had a busy day and he's not psychic. Replace the snack immediately with what he wants.

8. Dinner should be more formal than breakfast. At this meal you may be seated, and allow him to serve himself from the table. Of course if he wants hotter gravy or something from the kitchen, you need to be up and gone for it with a smile. DO NOT PIG OUT. Always leave the table a little bit hungry to maintain both your figure and your dignity.

9. After dinner you may begin clearing the table as he waits for you to bring his dessert. He will be in a state of relaxation by this point and feel contented. If he aims a playful swipe at your backside during the clearing, respond with an "oh you!", smile and continue to the kitchen to get his dessert.

10. When choosing a dessert, remember a fat man is a faithful man and a full man falls asleep fast. Use lots of rich icings and creamy fillings.

11. Do not complain or question if your Husband has plans for after dinner. He has the right to a private life. Never call to check up on him. Use your free time to bake more, or to do his laundry.

12. Always go to bed before your Husband. He deserves a quiet time to reflect on his day and to plan for tomorrow. If he wakes you for sex when he comes to bed, give in graciously.

13. Never initiate sex yourself. Only whores initiate sex.

So ladies, print this out and keep it somewhere where you can see it daily. Not only will your Husband be much happier but so will you.

And of course, you will be pleasing Jesus and isn't that what it's all about?

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390 Comments:

At 4/4/06 7:44 PM, Blogger Shai said...

...a fat Husband is a faithful Husband.

Wow, great points Annie! Thanks bunches. ;)

 
At 10/4/06 10:52 PM, Anonymous Xenophile said...

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we don't let our pets off the collar and onto the computer. Now, back to the bedroom with you, slave! And this time, I want my boots CLEAN!

 
At 10/4/06 11:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Disregarding more than half of a populace is a DANGEROUS tactic.

Suggesting that a 'woman's work' and the activities she engages in throughout the day are meaningless and trivial is an insult to women.

It is also pathetic to take half of your populace and eliminate them from positions of power based merely on gender. Imagine how many great ideas may be lurking out there in the minds of women that are currently 'keeping quiet as to not disturb their busy husbands'.

Depressing. Truly and completely Depressing.

 
At 11/4/06 7:22 AM, Blogger Margaret said...

Is this on the level??? It reminds me of Betty Bowers - total parody.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry ...

Personally, I try to remember, as a single person, that Jesus was single, that his disciples walked out on their families in order to follow him, and that in early Christianity, family life was seen as a distraction from following God and was to be avoided or at the very least, frowned upon.

And I try to remember that God made me as a woman with a brain and he loves me that way, and that Jesus told us not to hide our lights under a bushel. Or in some suburban nightmare, buried in soap operas, Prozac, and a dysfunctional relationship.

 
At 11/4/06 9:52 AM, Blogger Catherine said...

I'm RELATIVELY certain that it's meant to be a parody, given lines like, "Only whores use frozen orange juice." Very funny, Annie. :)

 
At 11/4/06 2:24 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

It's obvious that none of you women are Christians and it's even more obvious that none of you care about making a happy home for yourselves and your Husbands.

I am not suggesting that a woman's work is trivial and unimportant, it is THE most important work there is! Women are responsible for the raising of the next generation, for the running of the household and for keeping the entire family well fed, well groomed and well prepared to face what life has to offer!

I suggest you all take stock of your lives and ask what is truly important in the long run. The position of power is with the woman, if the mother is a WHORE the family will be disfunctional. Fathers rarely play anything other than a disciplinary role and children need something more than that.

They need a loving mother and men need a loving wife to raise their children to be loving adults.

SHEESH!

 
At 11/4/06 6:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad I'm not a Christian... what a waste of an excellent resource, the wife, in such fruitless and demeaning servitude.

Yes... Fruitless beccause the relationship you suggest reinforces a very disgusting mode of behavior among men. Teaches children that based on the bits they have between their legs they are either automatically master or servant...

 
At 11/4/06 7:07 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

You're glad you're going to Hell?

 
At 11/4/06 7:07 PM, Anonymous Xenophile said...

It's obvious that none of you women are Christians and it's even more obvious that none of you care about making a happy home for yourselves and your Husbands.

Bingo, and way off the mark. I'm no sheep, and I'm not married. I'm also no one's slave. I was brought up to be a partner, not help a childless, helpless man pretend he can control me. But you're a Christian; wasn't Eve meant to walk at his side as a companion--not above, or below, but right next to him?

I won't disagree that what you want to call "women's" work isn't trivial; it is work indeed. But dividing it along gender lines? No way, Annie. Haven't you ever heard that it takes a village? Children don't learn everything from their mothers and I'm sure a stay-at-home father or two would have some words with you over it. There's a great book called The Second Shift from the 1980s with stories about families--men and women with children together--who had interesting thoughts on those chores. It's worth a read.

If a mother is a whore the family will be dysfunctional.

What whore has a family?

I'm afraid you're ignoring nearly one hundred years of psychology. I won't presume that you haven't been to college, though I'm thinking a finishing school is more likely with the ideas you espouse. A man can cause his family to be dysfunctional just as easily as a woman; parent or child they can do that. If you live in the United States, you probably see plenty of that every day.

I knew a guy who couldn't get a date. He espoused similar ideals. It's been four years since he got a girlfriend--I've seen him whining about it online. I don't wonder how that could be. The ideas are chauvinistic and mature portions of society are trying to move on beyond them. That's why sexual harassment and the like are illegal in the workplace. Women in the Victorian era were diagnosed with "hysteria" and drugged to keep them inside the house and "happy."

If you want to stay locked in the house with a bunch of squalling children and adult males who act like bigger, spoiled versions of them, that's fine, but please don't rain on my parade. I'm quite happy becoming an educated, productive member of society. We spent quite long enough in the Dark Ages.

 
At 11/4/06 7:41 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

What are you talking about? Who's locked in the house? You sure are biased agasint women who WORK in the home....why is that?

Why do you keep espousing that what women do in the home and family is below what the man does outside the home?

It isn't. It is equal. I hope you stop self hating. Have you prayed lately? Let's pray together.

Sweet Jesus, xenophile is lost and in confusion, please Jesus reach out to xeno, touch her heart, make her realise her full potential as a woman, let her see the power she holds within, in Your Name I pray. Amen.

 
At 11/4/06 7:46 PM, Anonymous Xenophile said...

I'm sorry, you appear not to have read what I said about AGREEING that the work done in the home is important. I made no comparisons, and nowhere did I say that either one was more or less important.

But hey, if you're going to pray for me, I shall think for you.

 
At 11/4/06 7:51 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Sure you agreed, but you also said:

But you're a Christian; wasn't Eve meant to walk at his side as a companion--not above, or below, but right next to him?

and

If you want to stay locked in the house with a bunch of squalling children and adult males who act like bigger, spoiled versions of them, that's fine, but please don't rain on my parade. I'm quite happy becoming an educated, productive member of society. We spent quite long enough in the Dark Ages.


So, I figured you were just trying to be PC with your bullshit about how you agree what women do at home is important.

 
At 11/4/06 7:55 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

With all due respect, AnnieAngel, I think you are misunderstanding what Xenophile is trying to say. She does, in fact, state that domesticity is important. However, she simply does not want to live her life that way. And who can blame her? Women have so many more options these days.

You have proven you can make a coherent statement, however, can you lift such a statement out of another's writing? I think you will find such skills useful in any job you might undertake, including that of a housewife. How better to support your husband than by knowing the ins and outs of his job. Plus, it does keep the boredom off, too.

 
At 11/4/06 7:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hell? That's a fictious creation of the Christian Patriarchy to inspire fear of consequence in it's followers. It's also a rather new, in terms of humanity's length of time on this planet, developement.

I do not believe in your heaven, or your hell... And when you say 'but it believes in you'... well, that's funny, because there's many, much older religions out there, that have no concept of what Christians call Heaven and Hell...

By the way. Jesus was a Buddhist.

 
At 11/4/06 8:01 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Cayora,

Perhaps you should take your own advice and read the title of this post. Xeno is neither Christian nor a wife, therefore the advice in the post is not directed toward her and I don't expect her to take it.

But thanks for being a respectful!

 
At 11/4/06 8:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One other thing... Go read your Bible again. Public Prayer is Hypocrisy and Self Serving, there are no spiritual rewards for praying openly in public because Jesus states that those who pray in public do it merely for the earthly rewards of their peer and told his followers NOT to pray in public. Ever. But.. I suspect, like most Christians, you haven't actually READ the book you profess a belief in.

 
At 11/4/06 8:02 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Anonymous,

That's nice, dear.

 
At 11/4/06 8:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh? A total ignoring of what I say in truth to you? Typical of your type.

 
At 11/4/06 8:05 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Typical of your type that you're anonymous.

 
At 11/4/06 8:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, Anonymous... So? Now, About that praying in public thing, are you going to heed your own gospels, specifically the one of Matthew and stop engaging in a behavior that is frowned upon?

 
At 11/4/06 8:11 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

AnnieAngel, however, you state the advice as though everyone should follow it, and imply that those who do not are going to hell. Therefore, you do have some stake in whether or not we agree with you. Obviously, you are trying to convince people. Therefore, you must be prepared to deal with the unconvinced with well thought-out arguments.

I wonder, do you believe that ever woman should do these things, or only those it works for?

 
At 11/4/06 8:13 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I prayed for Jesus to reach out to Xeno. This is not a personal prayer to God that should be made in private. This is a prayer for Xeno's healing to Jesus.

 
At 11/4/06 8:14 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I do not imply anyone will go to Hell for not following the ADVICE. It's advice, I'm not Jesus.

You will however go to Hell for not being a Christian.

 
At 11/4/06 8:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALL prayers are to be done in Private, as per Jesus' instructions to his own apostles when they asked him how to pray. ESPECIALLY those prayers in which you are acting and asking for another.

 
At 11/4/06 8:18 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

Thank you for responding to my question. Nonetheless, can you understand that in such a statement, meant to convince people to behave in a certain way. Therefore, those who disagree are just as likely, if not more likely, to respond. One must expect that. And, in truth, it is a good thing. It is how one learns, after all. Socrates taught us that.

 
At 11/4/06 8:24 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I am not a hypocrite, I am not praying for Xeno in order to be seen as a righteous person, I'm praying for her healing. My intent is what is important here.

Now if you are done anonymously trolling can you stick to the topic?

 
At 11/4/06 8:27 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Well good for Socrates. He had a good end didn't he.

I have no problem with people who don't agree responding, however I don't agree with people just jumping all over a woman who stays home and performs a vital role in our society. Which is what happened here.

Thank you for asking questions. It's how communication starts. I'm sick and tired of the feminists who think that only they are true women because they go out and steal jobs from men and ignore their children.

 
At 11/4/06 8:30 PM, Anonymous Mindworm said...

I find it interesting that you indict someone for trolling, and yet you support someone who has written a whole post about how to troll. But I don't know much about these things. Can you please explain it to me? I do so want to learn!

 
At 11/4/06 8:31 PM, Anonymous Tanya said...

What is your problem with 'anonymous'? Any 'identity' I take on the net is in no way truly confirmable or any more 'real'.

The topic at hand is how 'Christian' wives are supposed to behave. I put before you that Christians are a minority in this world. You rebut with 'All non-Christians are going to hell' and I suspect that is truly how you believe.

You take from God something that he alone claims right to: Judgement. You infer, that these rules are 'Just for Christians', but you also believe that everyone on this world should be 'Christian' so that they will be spared the ravages of hell, Am I correct? So through a steady train of argument and thought, the rules you have layed out here are for EVERYONE, they just don't know it yet.

Am I close?

Oh, and I'll start signing these for you since you take offence at Anonymous posting.

 
At 11/4/06 8:31 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Mindworm,

Do you have a point that has anything to do with the topic of this thread?

 
At 11/4/06 8:34 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Tanya,

It's hard to tell who is who when posting as anonymous. You are not the only poster who posts anonymously, thank-you.

I'm not judging, it's a fact that if you are not saved, you go to Hell.

And it's not how Christian woman are SUPPOSED to act, it's my advice to women who ASKED for it on how to be a good Christian wife.

It's just advice, it's not being lobbied before Congress.

 
At 11/4/06 8:36 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

Please, I do not insult your beliefs, please do not insult mine. I am merely trying to speak of the fundementals of understanding what someone is saying. I have been polite throughout our interaction.

For the record, Socrates died for his beliefs as did our lord Jesus. And furthermore, St. Thomas of Aquinas, one of the foremost people to think about what Jesus had to say, relied upon the Socratic method himself. If Socrates is good enough for him, he is good enough for such minor thinkers as you and I.

At any rate, you made your point, several times over without responding to the points of others. If you are truly interested in communicating, then let's communicate, shall we?

 
At 11/4/06 8:41 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Cayora,

How did I insult your beliefs, I don't even know what they are. How was I not polite?

Jesus died for YOU. I don't care what Thomas Aquinas had to say, the arguement that he was some kind of authority and is to be obeyed is not only weak but blasphemy.

I don't think you are interested in anything, truly. You don't like my advice so I don't know what else there is on this thread for us to debate.

 
At 11/4/06 8:41 PM, Anonymous Tanya said...

Annie:

No, it is NOT a fact that people who are not 'saved' are going to 'hell'... There are NO facts to back that up... merely beliefs. Your belief says that because I don't believe, I go to hell, my belief says that religion is the biggest evil committed against the world throughout all of history... if we started tallying up arguments and such to back up our respective beliefs, I bet I would come out ahead...

And if you are offering it up as Advice... understand, that even Dear Abby apologizes when enough people write in and chastize her for poor advice that is a disservice to those seeking said advice.

 
At 11/4/06 8:43 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Fuck Dear Abby! What is wrong with you? Go to a religious board somewhere and tell the Christians off, ok, Tanya?

You're freaking me out.

 
At 11/4/06 8:47 PM, Anonymous Tanya said...

Wow, such strong language.. Why?

What is wrong with me? Many things... but that's not the issue here.

I used to actively participate on religious boards... however, my time is occupied currently with more fruitful endeavours than the ever pointless religious belief of who's belief is right... We can argue all day long about gods we've never seen and never fail to side with me/you, to paraphrase a song lyric...

And... Why am I freaking you out? Explain please?

 
At 11/4/06 8:49 PM, Anonymous BDSM Is Your Friend said...

"A couple years ago I was bombarded with emails asking me how to please both Jesus and your Husband."

On your knees, of course.

 
At 11/4/06 8:51 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Well, Tanya, for someone who hates Christians you seem to care an awful lot about advice Christians give each other.

Why is that? It's kind of freaky. I don't go bothering Muslim women telling them their advice to each other is wrong, nor do I tell them their religion is evil.

I understand you hate religion. I really don't care. Nothing you say will make me not be Christian.

So what's your game here? Are you just bored or are you insane?

 
At 11/4/06 8:52 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

May I refer you to my original points? I have not commented on the validity of your advice, although I could. I focus on helping you to understand the very conversation you are having.

You insulting my beliefs by insulted the father of them, Socrates. And then, you insult me by deliberately misstating what I had to say. I did not imply Thomas Aquinas should be obeyed, simply that he was a Christian, who knew and worked by the Socratic method. I was offering references for Socrates, as it were. I also believe one should know the history of one's own religion, but that's neither here nor there. If you can provide better thought than Socrates I would be delighted to hear that, and I mean that without any trace of sarcasm whatsoever. It is not blasphemy to enjoy using the mind God gave you.

Please, I do not tell you what you believe. I would appreciate the same courtesy. You did say you did not think I was interested in anything, therefore stating my beliefs for me. Courtesy is, after all, what allows us to have this conversation like civilized people.

Would you like me to start picking apart your actual advice?

 
At 11/4/06 8:53 PM, Anonymous Cheeses Freak said...

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At 11/4/06 8:57 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Cayora,

At this point, I could truly care less what you do. Your believe in a philosophy and that's your business not mine.

Socrates did not create the gods he believed in, so the father of your beliefs had his own beliefs. It's like a hall of mirrors...use your own mind, seek Jesus.

 
At 11/4/06 8:57 PM, Anonymous Tanya said...

Oh, you misunderstand.. I hate ALL religion... and, if you look up hate, you'll understand that it's an antagonistic attractor.

Why do I go out of my way to deal most specifically with Christians?

Simple, I live in the United States, a country that is currently facing a very fundamental threat to one of its founding principals... The Freedom of Religion.

I take my Freedom Seriously... when someone says I have the freedom of religion, that means to me I have the freedom FROM relgion, in otherwords, because of my religious choice, or lack of one, I shall not become a second class citizen.

The current trend in the United States is in direct opposition to that founding principle. Non-Christians are becoming second class excluded citizens... and this disgusts me.

I suspect, that if you spoke Arabic, and had access to boards where muslim women gave each other advice, you would more than likely assault those beliefs that did not mesh with yours, as, under the founding principles of the United States would be your right.

 
At 11/4/06 8:57 PM, Anonymous Cheeses Freak said...

Annie, are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay, Annie?

You've been hit by -- you've been struck by a smooth Cheeses Freak!

 
At 11/4/06 9:01 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Actually, Tanya, I participate in a number of religous board where I LEARN about Islam. I do not tell them they are wrong as it would do no good, but I learn from them so that I can understand how their mindset works.

I think you're paranoid. Christians are not out to get you!

 
At 11/4/06 9:03 PM, Anonymous Paranoia said...

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

 
At 11/4/06 9:06 PM, Anonymous Tanya said...

Then why do they lead the fight to prevent abortion, sensible sex education, contraceptive training, infiltrate the schools of my children trying to force them to pray to a god they have no belief in, work to pass laws making it a requirement to post laws from the bible in classrooms... etc?

I can go on and on with examples of how Christianity directly attacks me on a daily basis. I won't, that's not on topic.. Granted... I think the topic is well askew from where we are currently at in this discussion.

 
At 11/4/06 9:07 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Well, I'm pro-choice so you can have all the abortions you want as far as I'm concerned. I believe in free will. As does God.

 
At 11/4/06 9:12 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

So, by your logic, I should follow Zeus?

I simply ask you to think through what you are saying. If that is too difficult for you, then I am truly sorry for misjudging you. If your statements cannot stand in opposition to another, it is time to rethink them. You will convince more people that way. Bring more people to Jesus.

Did I bring up the gods that Socrates believed in? I don't believe I did, but please, tell me if I am mistaken.

Why listen to Socrates, indeed? Why listen to your preacher or to the translators of the Bible you are using? We listen to them because they have something to teach us.
Also, do you realize that the very argument of a hall of mirrors refers back to Socrates and Plato, who said that we see only shadows upon the wall of a cave, and seek to divine what is casting those shadows? This man you so blithely dismiss has already shaped your way of thinking. It would be a shame now to not attempt to understand it.

Surely, Jesus, being a rational man, will value your devotion so much more deeply if he knows it is not blind and unthinking. Also, what reason has anyone to follow your advice if they see you cannot back it up or think through it? One must have reasons, evidence, justifications for saying what one does, or what one says cannot carry any weight.

It is not the principals of religion but the principals of debate I am belabouring here. You have already proven you cannot do that reliably, by being goaded into saying, "fuck Dear Abby." Such words are not an argument but what those who cannot think say when they run out of indoctrined statements. I know you can do better.

 
At 11/4/06 9:22 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

By your logic, you should follow Zeus.

You are snarky and condescending and you think that you have some "knowlegde" that is above my belief in Jesus. Good for you! May it bring you comfort in Hell!

I was goaded into saying Fuck Dear Abby, was I? LOL! How many posts have you made here tonight? You've been goaded by your own ego, Cayora!! There is no debate to be had here, you either like the advice or you don't. But keep on repeating yourself. :)

:)

 
At 11/4/06 9:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we say... AssTarded... im glad my wife doesn't act liek a brainless christian... man if she acted liek this, iw ould never come home, i would leave her, thats just pathetic.. annieangel... your a sad pathotic women.. simple as that..

I hope you enjoy being a slave to a moron...

 
At 11/4/06 10:35 PM, Blogger TheMadGnome said...

...Hopping Holy Jesus... Look at this veritable herd of non-believers. What ever shall we do? I mean, With so many immoral heathens in our midst, how shall we ever see human kind to the light and salvation granted in the bosom of our Lord.

Oh, wait... I am an amoral non-believer heathen. Putting aside the insane Fundamental debate, looking at your advice, the path you espouse, it is severely and truly damaging to any woman foolish enough to cast aside her own sense of self worth to follow your "Advice"

quote>1. Always be up before your Husband in the morning so you can have his paper and his breakfast ready for him when he wakes. Although it is the morning, there is no need to be slovenly, always make sure you are showered and dressed with your hair fixed and your make-up on. ALWAYS serve fresh orange juice. Only whores use frozen.

...If my girlfriend (who I live with... IN SIN!!!) were to even consider this, I would be forced to have some stern words. I love her, she deserves her rest. And I LIKE Frozen OJ, there is nothing wrong with it.

Quote>2. DO NOT sit down at breakfast. Your Husband will be trying to read the morning paper and the sound of your chair scraping on the floor will be a distraction to him as you get up and down to fetch him more biscuits or find his briefcase for him.

Like I said, I love my girlfriend, I respect her, and even if she were my wife (she chooses not to be at this time) I would expect her to sit, to converse, and to share in my life and my decisions, because she is my equal and she is important to me.

quote>3. DO NOT be a clingy wife! Your Husband has a lot on his minds in the morning, planning out his busy day. Do not try to engage him in conversation about what your plans for the day are or other trivial matters. Always walk him to the door. Make sure to carry with you any of the things he has forgotten so he doesn't need to go back for them. Offer yourself for a kiss, but if he is too busy to notice DO NOT POUT. He has a lot of responsibility and the morning is not the time for feminine hysterics.

Ok, I do not see a problem with walking together, getting as much time together as possible, and sharing your life, but, once again, this is a choice thing. And Free Will would dictate that she only aide me at her whim. It is insane to assume these duties. I know there are house servants that get paid quite well to do these jobs.

Quote>4. DO NOT CALL YOUR HUSBAND AT WORK. Nothing will distract him from his responsibilities at work faster than trying to deal with yours as well. It can wait. In the case of an actual emergency, of course, calling him at work is necessary. PMS induced crying jags are not emergencies.

Oh, do please call me and break the monotony of the day. Unless work says you cannot. If something is important to my other half, then it is important to me.

Quote>5. Spend your day cooking and cleaning. There is no excuse for anything other than a spotless house. Filth is for pigs not humans and cleaning top to bottom everyday is a good use of your time as well as good exercise. Bake lots of cookies and cakes and treats. ALWAYS REMEMBER a fat Husband is a faithful Husband.

HAHAHAHAHA... heheh, ok, sorry, Gotta be serious here, Mark. *sigh* heheh Ok... 1) If your house is to clean it will actually hinder the development of a healthy immune system. 2) A little clutter is homey. 3) I can pick up after my self. I do not need a servant. I need a partner.

Quote>6. When your Husband gets home from work, do not jump him with problems you've had during the day, or questions about his day. He needs time to relax and wind down. Make sure the TV remote is next to his chair and the batteries are fresh. Once he walks in the door, ladies...turn OFF the soaps and talk shows.

The batteries in a remote only need changing every few years, sweetie. If your remote is going through batteries that fast, you have a technical issue. Call a repair (wo)man. We are not Co-Dependant. My wife does not need to live her life waiting on me, Waiting FOR me. And certainly not to provide such... unimportant services.

Quote>7. Have a snack ready for him to eat as you finish dinner. If he is not happy with your choice of snack DO NOT POUT, it's your fault. He's had a busy day and he's not psychic. Replace the snack immediately with what he wants.

hhhmmmmm... snacks. A shame mine can't cook. Oh, wait, it is not her Job to serve me. She has as hard a day as I did, and she deserves a rest, even if she spent all day working in the house. Especially if she spent all day working in the house. And, A Good Wife KNOWS what her Husband likes, so, no need for pouting. If he breaks his routine, shame on him.

Quote>8. Dinner should be more formal than breakfast. At this meal you may be seated, and allow him to serve himself from the table. Of course if he wants hotter gravy or something from the kitchen, you need to be up and gone for it with a smile. DO NOT PIG OUT. Always leave the table a little bit hungry to maintain both your figure and your dignity.

...*blink... this is Insane. First off, Hunger is your bodies way of saying it needs sustenance. Secondly, it is NOT the job of a wife to exist in a servile existence. It is to be loved, Honored and Supported.

Quote>9. After dinner you may begin clearing the table as he waits for you to bring his dessert. He will be in a state of relaxation by this point and feel contented. If he aims a playful swipe at your backside during the clearing, respond with an "oh you!", smile and continue to the kitchen to get his dessert.

Ok, enough... I do not know how many times I can say it. A Wife (or Girlfriend) is an equal not a servant and not an Object. Share chores, and Respect each other. And if you do not wanna be smacked on the butt, you do NOT have to put up with it.

Quote>10. When choosing a dessert, remember a fat man is a faithful man and a full man falls asleep fast. Use lots of rich icings and creamy fillings.

Ok, this is Insane and more than a little dangerous. It is also very passive aggressive to plot the harm of your mate in the form of an unhealthy weight gaining plan. You need a life, there is a world outside the door. The window, it opens, and you can go out it.

Quote>11. Do not complain or question if your Husband has plans for after dinner. He has the right to a private life. Never call to check up on him. Use your free time to bake more, or to do his laundry.

Ok, People are free to do as they choose, as long as they meet the responsibilities they have to others. One would assume the husband would be polite enough to share the pertinent info about his goings on.

Quote>12. Always go to bed before your Husband. He deserve a quiet time to reflect on his day and to plan for tomorrow. If he wakes you for sex when he comes to bed, give in graciously.

Go to bed when you are tired. Admittedly, after a long day of slaving, I would expect it to be at 6pm. And, if I wake you for sex, feel free to push me off the bed. Once again I must stress, Women are People, not Objects, they have wants and needs and *GASP!* Rights. Sex is an act of loved shared between two (or more) people. It is not a Duty.

Quote>13. Never initiate sex yourself. Only whores initiate sex.

Ok, this is just stupid. Seriously, have you ever HAD sex, do you have a Husband? I promise you, he WANTS you to initiate sex. If he does not, he does not want you.


Ok, now... You need to remember that the ideas you cling to, were a rules system designed 2000 years ago, meant to lock women into servitude. So many of the ideas you discuss are not in the Bible, just associated with it and taught by close minded bigots in an Oral tradition.

Women (and Men) have the right to run a house, if they so choose. The have the right to be individuals too, and to be equals. The very nature of your Advice demands that women live in subjection to their man. And, that is not right, it is not fair, and it is not the loving path Jesus Taught. So, get off your High Horse, get the stick out, and go make your mans night. Did he tell you that you could use the magic chatter box called a computer?

 
At 12/4/06 3:01 AM, Blogger Margaret said...

It's interesting, when one reads the Bible, how Jesus approaches women.

He approaches them like sensible, intelligent, interesting people.

As the Christian writer Dorothy L. Sayers wrote, "no wonder the women were the first at the cradle and the last at the cross. They had never met a man like this. If one read ONLY THE WORDS OF JESUS, one would never suspect that there was anything funny, unusual, dirty or unclean about female nature."

Jesus was a feminist - the women he associated with were not there to serve him but to love him and be loved by him. This was completely at odds with the culture around him and terrified the corrupt religious-political patriarchal leadership.

I trust I make my meaning clear.

 
At 12/4/06 4:16 AM, Blogger Catherine said...

I definitely second what Margaret said. Frankly, AnnieAngel, one thing that really disturbs me about your advice to wives is the thinly veiled hatred of women and female nature in it. You continually describe female emotion as "pouting", "feminine hysterics", and "PMS-induced crying jags", as if women were incapable of having sobre, considered opinions or genuine, valid emotions - including justified anger if their husbands withold affection or are overly critical of them. You brand female sexual desire as something dirty, something "only whores" feel, but you also dismiss all other kinds of female desire - such as that for a partner who is affectionate, attentive, and appreciative - as "pouting". As Margaret said, to consider half of humanity as essentially dysfunctional is not very Christian.

Also, if keeping a home and raising children is as important as you say it is, then haven't women who work at home (as well as those who work outside) earned a certain amount of RESPECT? If the wife's work is as important as the husband's, then why do you still tell her to act subserviant to him? Hasn't she earned the right to be taken seriously? To expect her husband's fidelity as a RIGHT, without resorting to strange tricks like fattening him up to try and make him less attractive to other women? Hasn't she earned the right to sit down at the table in her own house with her husband, as an equal, and maybe even have something intelligent to say about what's in the daily paper?

 
At 12/4/06 8:53 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

It seems that you all have wonderful relationships in which you would never ask anyone for advice.

I'm so happy for you!

But not all women have happy marriages, these are the women who write to me for advice. I'd add in a DUH but I don't want to hurt the feelings of any of these ladies who may be reading.

And again, none of you are Christian.

ThaMadGnome,

were to even consider this, I would be forced to have some stern words

When do stern words turn to fists??? You sound like a control freak to me.

 
At 12/4/06 9:13 AM, Blogger Catherine said...

I understand that there are many people who could benefit from relationship and marriage advice. I have no issue with your offering that. I think your particular advice is mistaken and can do a lot of harm, though, both to women and to their relationships. That's the reason I feel compelled to take issue with it.

Just out of curiosity, how can you be sure none of the posters here are Christian? I'm not, personally, but I know Margaret in real life and she is. If you took a quick show of hands about everyone's religion, you might be surprised.

I'm also not sure why you think your advice wouldn't be of any concern to non-Christians. You're not quoting your religion's dictates about how Christian women should behave; you're offering your own advice about what makes a happy and "good" marriage. That's more a psychological/social than a religious issue.

 
At 12/4/06 9:18 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

For example:

A high powered attorney with a big case is confronted in the morning with an atmosphere of peace or an atmosphere of a lazy wife who starts nagging the second he wakes up.

He has a lot on his mind! If he is treated as a partner by his wife, she will help get his things together, make his breakfast and allow him a time in the morning to do nothing but plan his day in court without distraction. There is no problem with him initiating conversation, but if he's thinking it's downright RUDE to distract him with piddly bullshit.

He does a better job, is in turn given better cases and earns more money for the family.

If his wife is not there to be his partner...well, he ends up with a job that lets him post on the internet all day.

A good wife is to be submissive to her Husband.

The Husband is the head of the family just as Jesus is the head of the Church. That is religous, Catherine.

 
At 12/4/06 12:07 PM, Blogger Catherine said...

The Husband is the head of the family just as Jesus is the head of the Church. That is religous, Catherine.

Even if one accepts that - and a lot of Christians don't, at least not in the sense in which you interpret it - what you're advocating goes way beyond that. You're not saying that wives should submit to their husbands' wills (as in, let the husband make decisions for the family as head of it), but that they should completely obliterate themselves and their own wishes and desires, all in favour of what they imagine to be their husbands' slightest whims. That's much more extreme than anything I've ever heard the Bible advocate.

Also, don't forget that Paul's admonition for wives to submit to their husbands as the church submits to Christ is followed by an instruction for husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the church. I can't really see Christ using the church to fulfill His smallest needs and then ignoring it, can you?

See, I was Christian once, I've read the occasional verse. :)

Seriously, though, what are your views on the husband's responsibilities towards his wife?

Also, in your lawyer example, you basically argue that a good partner would help her partner if he were in a stressful situation, and part of that help might be giving him space to get his work done. That's perfectly true, but a) that's an exceptional (stressful) situation, not an everyday one, and b) if that's true, then on days when the wife has an exceptional number of things to do, her husband should help out by making HER breakfast, picking up some of the chores, and being equally attentive to her mood. Partnership implies equality.

I'm still curious about why you assume that none of those leaving comments are Christian.

 
At 12/4/06 12:09 PM, Blogger Butler Thomas said...

Vulgar personal attacks against our commentators will not be tolerated and will not be allowed to stand.

 
At 12/4/06 1:06 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

I am sorry, but I see no vulgarness here. This is a thread in which anyone may post. In fact, you yourself, Butler Thomas, wrote a thread advocating far worse behaviour than this. If you would like to take this into another format, I am more than willing.

If you notice, the dissenters are much more polite in this case.

 
At 12/4/06 7:43 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Cayora,

I've been told that a post was removed from this thread which was nothing but a vulgar personal attack on me. I didn't see it but I'm told it was extremely abusive.

 
At 12/4/06 7:52 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Catherine,

I do not say wives, as you say, "should completely obliterate themselves and their own wishes and desires, all in favour of what they imagine to be their husbands' slightest whims".

Women can live full lives and still support their families without resorting to being slaves. Being a wife and mother is a situation that many Christian women take extremely seriously! They find it a very fulfiling role to be responsible for raising the next generation! These women don't shove their kids in day care they stay home and raise them. It takes money to have all the things people want, and with a Husband who understands this, there needs to be certain sacrifices on BOTH sides.

He is working his ASS OFF to provide for all the niceties in life and he only gets to enjoy them on weekends and after work.

How DARE you imply that it is his WHIM to be treated with respect and love by his wife trying to make his home a place of quiet retreat and comfort.

In the long run, when the kids are gone and he retires....they have raised intelligent well loved children who will be productive members of society and they have earned enough money to see the world, start a business, whatever their dream may be.

This is the family that God wants for us. I'm sorry if you don't like it....actually I really don't care if you like it or not.

 
At 12/4/06 8:14 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

Now then, AnnieAngel, I now have the time to address your comments once more.

By your logic, you should follow Zeus.
Turning a sentence around is no more an argument than resorting to profanity. Maybe if you rephrase and support your point it will be more effective.

In response to your question of my character, I have behaved as politely as possible in this thread. I have not used profanity, nor have I insulted anyone. I see I must have stated my point poorly before. If that is the case, forgive me. I shall now state it in a clear and unadorned fashion.

I want you to think through what you are saying and respond to the points others have made here, rather than launching personal attacks. For example, you called TheMadGnome a control freak. I would dearly love to see how you respond to some of the things he actually said. Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, you can get some men in here, saying that is how they want to be treated. So far, we have one man disagreeing with you. Are there any who agree?

For your sake, I will disregard your final paragraph of the post in question. You did seem to be upset.

 
At 12/4/06 8:24 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Don't disregard it, it's the part you need to face. You think you're brilliant and clever but you're not. I don't care about Socrates, make a blog about how great he is and if I come over there and slam him you can get upset.

But here...I don't care if you don't like what I say. You need to realise that.

Or you can keep posting over and over to feed your self inflated ego.

Suit yourself. :) But I'm not going to go hunt up men for you, that's just strange for you to ask.

You sound like you have an obsession with me. Now will you think I said you actually do?

:)

 
At 12/4/06 8:35 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

Well you are the one making the assertion, therefore you are the one who must support it. Personal attacks are not valid arguments.

But, I am an obliging individual. Since you ask me to deal with your final paragraph, I will.

Yes, you were goaded into saying "fuck Dear Abby," since you had no other way to respond. You made emotional response, using profanity to a valid assertion. You did not counter the assertion, simply dismissed it. This is not the way to convince others.

My motives for posting here are simple, and not motivated by ego. I believe that anyone, no matter how much I disagree with them, should be able to support what they say and do it well. I am trying to help.

Now then, about my being here. You support this very thing, so you cannot rightly complain about it when it happens to you.

And, for the record, this is a service I would provide for anyone who needs it and frequently do.

Now then, to reiterate, a personal attack is not a valid argument. Respond to the points raised. You will be more convincing for it.

 
At 12/4/06 8:55 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I respond to trolls any way I choose. I do not have to answer to points I find invalid such as what Dear Abby would or would not do if she were me and being trolled by a crazy person. That's stupid. For instance, in response to you I could say, if I choose:

You are nothing but a great big looser who has no life and so is trolling this blog to pimp out the religion of Socratic love and peace through condescension.

The rest of your post makes sense only to yourself and your drug induced stupor. Yes, that's personal, but seriously? You're boring, you're trolling and I don't like you.

 
At 12/4/06 9:12 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

As you wish, then. You may say what you will, it would simply behoove you to say it well. This is all I am saying. I am not ordering you to do anything, simply telling you how to do what you are doing well.

However, you take what I am saying as a personal offense, and respond with attacks that do not help your situation. If you want to argue, it would behoove you to know how to do it. This is not about whether you like me or not. This is about saying what you are saying well.

And, tell me, how is trying to help a person win a debate, despite being insulted for doing so, trolling?

At any rate, I will leave you to your loss. It cannot be said that I did not try. If you ever want to use these tools I have laid before you, they will always be here.

And, did you notice, I never insulted you once. I didn't need to.

 
At 12/4/06 9:12 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

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At 12/4/06 9:13 PM, Anonymous Cayora said...

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At 12/4/06 9:18 PM, Blogger GodFearing said...

Goodness! I am personally insulted by many aspects of this blog.

First off: AnnieAngel, you claim to be a good Christian and yet you condone abortion? What is the matter with you? Surely you know that our Lord considers all life sacred. How can you possibly condone that type of murder and still expect to get to Heaven, no matter how good of a wife that you think you are?

Secondly: Cayora, What exactly, in plain words is the point that you are trying to make? While it is obvious that you are not a Christian woman is seems that you suffer from a little too much education. Don't get me wrong, women should be able to read and write and have enough intelligence to talk to their friends and to pray but they don't need anything more than that.

Third: You ladies bicker with each other worse than a sewing circle. What are you all doing continually posting here? Annie's message was clear to begin with and she is right, the good Lord has done much to teach us that to live your life properly a woman's place is serving her man. All of you should stop writing and arguing and get back to serving your men. If you are like some of the women out there who don't have a man yet just make sure that men know that you are available and that you have good Christen values.

Fourth and most important: I know that this is very hard for you all to understand but it is very important to try and remember that you women aren't people, you are things. You were created by God as an afterthought so that you could properly serve man. Please try and remember this before you open your mouths again or even consider writing something.

Now then, you should all stop posting and get back in the kitchen. You should be ashamed of yourselves for wasting so much time away from your men to do this petty bickering that accomplishes nothing.

 
At 12/4/06 9:41 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Godfearing,

Yawn.

 
At 12/4/06 9:44 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Cayora,

It behooves me to say that you attempted to control the conversation here to your own ends to feed your ego. That is trolling. There is no debate to be had on advice not intended for you.

Now run along back under your bridge and pray to shadows on the wall.

 
At 12/4/06 9:50 PM, Blogger TheMadGnome said...

Stern Words means I would not allow someone I Love to act as a Subservient. I am not a control freak. I am offended that you took all of what I wrote, condensed it to an attack on my character and completely ignored it.

Where do you get off giving any advice to anyone? The ideas you promote are damaging and primitive. Not your Religion, your very Ideas.

Women have rights, they are people, with minds and hearts and bodies and souls. A woman is an individual with all that goes with it. She is not a slave to any man.

What possible reason would people come to you for advice? What makes you think you even have the right to destroy other peoples lives like you are "Advising?" Are you even educated? Did you go to College? Are you a councilor or a psychologist, or even a social worker? Do you have any grasp to the nature of the world outside your close-minded backwater 1950's-from-hell dementia?

 
At 12/4/06 9:58 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Who the HELL are you *allowing* woman how to act? Take your penis and go be subservient to yourself with it!

SHEESH!

 
At 12/4/06 10:03 PM, Anonymous I AM YOUR GOD said...

Is that you speaking in tongues, now?

 
At 12/4/06 10:10 PM, Blogger TheMadGnome said...

Who the HELL are you *allowing* woman how to act? Take your penis and go be subservient to yourself with it!

SHEESH!


It is not my will allowing anyone to do anything. I do believe you meant to ask who I am to suggest women have rights?

I am an Educated and caring man. I see I have broken you, so I suggest you seek the aid of your husband to put you right so you can properly converse.

For every other free woman, I would suggest they ignore your advice as damaging and dangerous.

As for my penis, well, you have no knowledge of it, and I am glad.

I would suggest, if you want to be taken seriously, to seek education, and learn that strong points are more effective than personal attacks.

When you have more education in the field that your are stomping through like an elephant than I do, I will listen to your Well thought out responses.

 
At 12/4/06 10:12 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I would not allow

Your words, not mine.

Is English your first language? You seem to have trouble with it, as do a few other posters here.

 
At 12/4/06 10:22 PM, Anonymous English is your friend said...

If you're going to go about with ad hominem attacks on people's spelling, perhaps you should do as Jesus said and take the LOG OUT OF YOUR OWN EYE, Annie. Look up dysfunction. It is not spelled with an i between the d and the s.

 
At 12/4/06 10:24 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I didn't say anything about spelling or grammar, I asked if English was his first language because he seems to be haiving trouble with the useage, it seems stilted and off somewhat.

As do a few other posters on here.

 
At 12/4/06 10:25 PM, Blogger TheMadGnome said...

Oh, i see, you are referring back to my original post. Nice to see you can read.

Well, by your own doctrine, It is the man's position to Allow behaviors. However, my use of "Allow" is a situation where I would be able to have some control. If the woman in my life acted as you suggest, I would insist if she wishes the relationship to continue, she cease said behaviors.

All humans have some ability to control themselves and others; in fact, it is the point of religion to teach them the proper way to administer such influence. Through moral behavior people do not exploit each other, as you seem to believe men should exploit Women.

Once again, instead of addressing peoples concern with your proposed Advice, you have lowered yourself to personal attacks. I feel pity for you I truly do. Ignorance is a choice in this era, and I believe that you have chosen it.

 
At 12/4/06 10:27 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Women have free will. They're like human beings that way.

I would insist if she wishes the relationship to continue, she cease said behaviors

Fascist!

 
At 12/4/06 10:28 PM, Anonymous Jesus Hates Your English said...

The more you argue, the more holes you dig yourself, Annie.

"Who the HELL are you *allowing* woman how to act?"

This sounds very much like funny usage. I can't make sense of it.

 
At 12/4/06 10:31 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Sorry that you're stoopid.

*eye roll*

 
At 12/4/06 10:35 PM, Anonymous Bad Annie! No Cookie! said...

There's this amazing editing technique called "read it out loud to see if it makes sense." Hmm, it didn't make sense. Somehow, I don't think that makes me stupid.

Now, on a linguistic level, I can analyze it.

"Who the HELL are you *allowing* woman how to act?"

interrogative pronoun, determiner, potty-mouth word, verb, subject, verb, random noun, interrogative pronoun, infinitive verb construction

Right.

What does this "allowing woman how to act" part of the sentence MEAN? It comes out as nonsense. Gibberish. I would guess that you meant a plural noun, i.e. women, but how can I be sure? And you're not kind enough even in the Christian sense to do anything but call me stupid--and misspell it.

You poor dear. Ignorance like that hurts everyone around you.

 
At 12/4/06 10:42 PM, Blogger TheMadGnome said...

fas·cist
n.
1. often Fascist An advocate or adherent of fascism.
2. A reactionary or dictatorial person.

adj.
1. often Fascist Of, advocating, or practicing fascism.
2. Fascist Of or relating to the regime of the Fascist.

In no way have I been reactionary or dictatorial. You however, have been. Your very list is the heart of a Male Fascist world. Where men oppress and subjugate women.

I must say, I really had a good laugh at that label applied to me. Funniest thing I have seen all day really.

I think you need to find a better word.

And, I have every right to terminate a relationship with a person if said individual is acting in a manner that makes me uncomfortable. If my Significant other was smoking crack in the living room, I would disapprove and insist she stop, and if she didn't I would end the relationship.

The reverse is also true, if my girlfriend has a problem with me trying to bring some enlightenment to hopeless Troglodytes, and I didn't, I would expect her to end our relationship.

I wish to once again point out that my goal here is to inform those you seek to advise that what you propose is from a person who has no education, and is promoting a very dangerous lifestyle. I also hope that some wisdom will penetrate the miasma of ignorance that clouds your mind.

If you want to be a help to people, please, get the proper training and education to do so.

 
At 13/4/06 6:28 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Gnomey,

You're the one who uses stern word and decides what a woman is allwoed to do.

That makes you:
A reactionary or dictatorial person.

I am educated. You obviously are having trouble reading what I write and comprehending at the same time.

You are repeating yourself. Call me ignorant again and I'll have your posts removed.

 
At 13/4/06 6:29 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

And you should really have your trolls use different IPs and different styles of writing, looser.

 
At 13/4/06 1:08 PM, Blogger Catherine said...

Annie, you said,

Women can live full lives and still support their families without resorting to being slaves.

Indeed they can. But not being able to sit down to breakfast with your husband - supposedly your loving partner - because the noise might disturb him, having to submit to his sexual advances every time regardless of whether you want to do so, and not being able to articulate your real opinions because he shouldn't have to deal with your "feminine hysterics" - those are the actions of a slave, not a wife. And I fail to see how the woman you describe in your advice could feel fulfilled. Aside from cooking for her husband and organising his life, you only have her watching soap operas! Surely women who work at home can spend their time writing, volunteering, socialising with friends, making art, taking classes? Where is the fulfillment?


Being a wife and mother is a situation that many Christian women take extremely seriously! They find it a very fulfiling role to be responsible for raising the next generation!

And so it is. But I fail to see how waiting on your husband hand and foot every day has anything to do with that. Moreover, I hope a lot of Christian men take their responsibilities as fathers and husbands seriously, loving and supporting their wives and taking an active role in raising their children, rather than just bankrolling the family. I know several who do.

These women don't shove their kids in day care they stay home and raise them.

It may surprise you, but there are many families - yes, two-parent families as well as single-parent - where both parents HAVE to work, sometimes two jobs, to support their family. It doesn't make them bad parents.

How DARE you imply that it is his WHIM to be treated with respect and love by his wife trying to make his home a place of quiet retreat and comfort.

I said no such thing. I don't think a man's desire for respect and love is a whim, any more than a woman's desire for respect and love is "pouting". I think that wanting a particular snack as soon as he comes in the door, or being annoyed by his wife's chair squeaking, are whims, and that it's unreasonable to expect his wife not only to anticipate them, but to put aside whatever she's doing and stifle her feelings (her "pouting", as you put it) to accomodate them.

This is the family that God wants for us. I'm sorry if you don't like it....actually I really don't care if you like it or not.

What's your evidence that that's what God wants, besides Paul's verse, which I've already addressed?

 
At 13/4/06 2:42 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Catherine,

You don't seem to understand that this is not a debate. If you don't like the advice don't follow it. If you don't like Jesus, burn in Hell.

It's that simple.

 
At 13/4/06 11:06 PM, Anonymous Tanya said...

Annie... I'll reiterate once again for you:

Do NOT Take from God that which he alone holds authority over.

Judgement.

ONLY GOD determines who goes to hell and not, and while he may have said certain things that he will condemn people to hell for, it is NOT your place to tell people they are or are not going to hell. Even if you think you're right in saying so, it's still no your place to tell people. It is GOD'S place to judge, not your's.

Plus, I would recommend that you go and reread Butler's post about how to control a liberal comment thread, and realize that you've had all his tactics used against you here in this thread.

Bye Bye Now...

 
At 13/4/06 11:17 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Tanya,

Do you really think I believed any of the posters on this thread were here to do anything other than flame and troll? Give me a break, it's been obvious from the second post that this thread has been hijacked. I mean, there are close to 100 posts on this thread while the other threads are pretty much ignored, with the exception of Butler's Open Thread post.

So, um, DUH, someone sent out a call to the liberal trolls and you all descended like a plague of frogs.

You know what we do to frogs?

We GIG 'EM!!!

LOL, seriously, get a grip.

And I'm not judging anyone, it's just a fact that if you aren't saved through Christ, you're going to burn in the pits of Hell. I don't care how you scream and bitch about it, it's a FACT.

I suggest you REPENT. If you aren't here to troll, if you came here on your own, I apologize for lumping you with the rest of the trash on this thread.

But if you did come here on your own, consider you may have been led here for a reason and that you can't seem to leave for the same reason....

Jesus is calling. Calling poor sinner come home.

 
At 14/4/06 1:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Annie,

I an newly married and my husband has made a request of me that I find somewhat embarrassing- he wants anal intercourse.

Up until now I have said no but each time I say no he says I am being selfish.

Should I surrender to my husaband's wishes? What would Jesus want me to do?

 
At 14/4/06 11:06 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Jesus wants you to REPENT for being such a disgusting and unfunny troll and for pissing on God.

 
At 14/4/06 9:30 PM, Anonymous Krypto said...

bitch, get in the kitchen and make me a pie!!

 
At 15/4/06 9:53 AM, Blogger Timmah420 said...

I can just see this \"guide\" stuck to the fridge of the James Dobsons and the Jerry Falwells of the world, the disappoving, unloving husbands, sorry masters, pointing at it with a grimace whenever their possession of a wife does something as disrespectful as sitting at the breakfast table or trying to initiate lovemaking.

This is like a little electronic window into the dark ages.

 
At 15/4/06 4:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"it's just a fact that if you aren't saved through Christ, you're going to burn in the pits of Hell. I don't care how you scream and bitch about it, it's a FACT."

I think if something hasn't occurred yet you can hardly call it a FACT.

 
At 15/4/06 5:13 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

What you think doesn't matter. Turn or burn, accept Christ!

 
At 15/4/06 7:33 PM, Blogger Butler Thomas said...

Vulgar personal attacks against our commentators will not be tolerated and will not be allowed to stand.

Timmah420, your post has been removed. Please respond to the content of the posts and not the character of the posters in the future.

 
At 18/4/06 10:26 PM, Blogger jexter said...

Liberals have a problem understanding Jesus' teachings in the bible because they haven't read it in the original Klingon.

 
At 18/4/06 10:40 PM, Blogger jexter said...

And Angel Annie, if I may be so bold: Lord Ja-hay-sus! that's a great set of gams!!! You have been blessed, child.

[Kin ah git an' A-men?]

 
At 23/4/06 6:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Annie. I haven't had that good a laugh for a year or so. My girlfriend looked up to see what was so funny.

 
At 25/4/06 1:16 PM, Blogger Butler Thomas said...

A certain small group of angry, militant anti-Christian liberals have taken it upon themselves to harrass Annie Angel across the internet. Although we cannot control such behavior in other fora, we shall not allow such behavior to be carried on here. Harassing spam will be immediately deleted.

 
At 27/4/06 5:46 AM, Blogger Tomas L. Martin said...

I think you misunderstand why people come on to speak, Annie. It's not because they wish to troll or insult you.

It's because they disagree with your ideas. Personally, I find them degrading and repulsive. Women and Men are equal. You should be more worried about the way Jesus' words have been manipulated to make you think this way than whether people disagree with you.

Please, reread the New Testament. Jesus advocates peace and understanding amongst all humans, regardless of gender and even of religion.

Understand that people have replied to this because you are insulting a vast number of people who disagree with your view of the world - that wives should be slaves to their husbands. You have chosen to air your views on a public forum and it is their right to share their opinions on what is your own opinion. I do not advocate personal attacks but people have the right to defend their opinions.

You do your own beliefs an injustice by responding to people's valid criticisms by ignoring their arguments and concentrating on calling them trolls. If you are going to post statements like this, you will find you will have to defend them against the many that disagree with them. As a commentator on this site you are meant to create discussion. This is a two-way thing and requires you to engage with your commentators when they have questions with your topic.

Thank you. I hope you will consider what I have said without dismissing it out of hand.

 
At 27/4/06 5:48 AM, Blogger Becky said...

Proverbs gives a far better summation of what makes a good wife than this list, which reminds me more of all those Total Woman fools back in the 70's who'd come to the door to greet their husbands wrapped in saran wrap than of anything based in Christianity - this is about appearances. Christianity is about what's real and enduring.

The woman of Proverbs is industrious both in and out of her home. She is a homemaker and business woman and strength and dignity are her clothing. What you are suggesting here is to humble yourself, not before the Lord, but before your husband.

There is neither dignity nor strength in being a slave. In fact, you are being disrespectful to your husband by infantilizing him and by assuming if he's not fat he'll be unfaithful, as though he has no conscience or self control.

I could be overlooking something, but nowhere in this list do I see anything about prayer, study, or contemplation as a part of a Christian wife's duty. My husband wants a wife who can think, who is independent, who stands with him before the Lord as an equal, because in Christ there is no male or female.

 
At 27/4/06 7:31 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

ARE YOU PEOPLE ON GLUE!??

I NEVER said a woman is a slave YOU DID.

I NEVER said men and women aren't equal YOU DID.

If you want to live in a household where no one is in control....ENJOY!

I really could care less what a bunch of Christ-pissing trolls think.

 
At 27/4/06 9:29 AM, Blogger Caramida said...

Sister Annie,

I would ask you to look to Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, chapter 13. Do you speak with love, faith and hope? Love is patient, kind, unboastful, not proud, not rude, not easily angered. Love keeps no record of wrongs. If you love Christ, follow the teachings of his disciples, and practice love.

That which you abhor, please do not unto others.

 
At 27/4/06 10:15 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Brain,

I would ask you to ask yourself the same question.

You're on here to troll me, I'm not an idiot, we've got a stat counter, I can SEE that I've been getting a million hits and therefore someone has sent out a call to troll me!

You are a HYPOCRITE! You will call Lord Lord but HE WON'T HEAR YOU! HE DOESN'T KNOW YOU!

REPENT!! THE TIME IS AT HAND WHEN EVERY KNEE SHALL BEND UNTO THE LORD OUR GOD AND YOUR KNEE SHALL BEND TOO, UNBELIEVER!

 
At 27/4/06 12:43 PM, Blogger K&M said...

Why does the use of frozen orange juice indicate one's whorishness? Does orange juice from a carton mean one is merely a slut but not a full-fledged whore?

You're Baptist, aren't you?

 
At 27/4/06 12:46 PM, Blogger K&M said...

And what the hell is up with that "whorish" icon of naked legs in whore shoes????? A "good wife" would never show her legs like that to anyone other than her husband and only if he asks her to! FOR SHAME!

 
At 27/4/06 12:57 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Whore shoes? Whorish icon of naked legs?

There is nothing whorish about my legs or my shoes. I have the best legs on the internet! You must have a filthy mind! Are you a lesbian?

Envying me won't get you into Heaven and neither will lusting after me!

REPENT!

 
At 27/4/06 1:12 PM, Blogger Chiara said...

People, people, people!
This is so similar to a well-known urban legend...
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/goodwife.htm

 
At 27/4/06 1:19 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Are you caling me a plagerist?

 
At 27/4/06 1:38 PM, Blogger Ayre said...

"I'm not judging, it's a fact that
if you are not saved, you go to Hell."

And you've died and gone to hell and then were ressurected to PROVE this fact weren't you? Oh, you weren't? Then please explain to me HOW you know it's a fact...and by fact I mean proven not written in the bible.

 
At 27/4/06 1:47 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

If you haven't accepted Christ, if you don't believe in Him, you better be a law observing Jew, or you're going to BURN!

That's a fact. If you don't like BIBLICAL TRUTHS, I can't help you.

I'll pray for your heart to soften and for you to find Jesus.

Jesus died and went to Hell and was ressurected and He did that FOR ME AND FOR YOU, so that we can live forever with Him in Heaven.

 
At 27/4/06 1:54 PM, Blogger Truth. said...

AHAAHAHAA

God, I hate organized religion.

 
At 27/4/06 2:17 PM, Blogger Fluffy said...

Jesus, Mary, and Saint Mother Fucker, I'd rather go to Hell than be in a Heaven populated by people like you.

 
At 27/4/06 2:38 PM, Blogger Ayre said...

"If you haven't accepted Christ, if you don't believe in Him, you better be a law observing Jew, or you're going to BURN!

That's a fact. If you don't like BIBLICAL TRUTHS, I can't help you."

It's a fact...like the moon is made of blue cheese is a fact. It's so ridiculous. No one has ever been besides Jesus and came back to tell about it.

"I'll pray for your heart to soften and for you to find Jesus."

DO NOT pray for me, I pray on my own just fine, thank you very much.

"Jesus died and went to Hell and was ressurected and He did that FOR ME AND FOR YOU, so that we can live forever with Him in Heaven."

He did? Really? Well, tell me about the conversation you and he had about it...I'd love to hear what he had to say.

I asked for concrete proven fact. Biblical truths is one thing, discovering that the earth is round and proving it is another.

 
At 27/4/06 2:40 PM, Blogger Ayre said...

Oh, one more thing about Hell, if you know for a fact that it's there, I'd love to go with you sometime just to check it out...then we can swing by Heaven and see which one is better.

 
At 27/4/06 2:42 PM, Blogger Demented M said...

Wow.

I'm really happy I'm going to hell.

This piece of advice, in particular, was really interesting to me.

"When choosing a dessert, remember a fat man is a faithful man and a full man falls asleep fast. Use lots of rich icings and creamy fillings."

What benefit is there in a man who falls asleep fast? That way you don't have to have sex or talk or otherwise have a relationship?

I don't get the fat=fidelity thing either. Is that really the only way you think you can keep your husband faithful?

But, hey, whatever works for you. If this lifestyle makes you happy, that's great. It sounds awfully lonely to me with very little opprotunity for a real emotional connection.

I'm just really thankful that my husband would hate the kind of wife you describe.

Thank God, he's going to hell with me!

M

 
At 27/4/06 2:53 PM, Blogger Ayre said...

Just came across this...

Etiquette of a Gentleman

It's about time someone wrote an article about how men should behave but just don't. Ladies, read this. If you don't agree, well, I don't know. That makes me sad. Anyway, this is from askmen.com. Check it out. Very informative. Guys, you may think it's lame to act like a gentleman, but it would get you way more action than telling a girl you have a huge cock.

Always be polite
Even if you don't like someone, there is no need to lower yourself to their level. Be polite and courteous; show that you're the better man.

Do not curse
Swearing is a big no-no. It shows that you don't have the vocabulary to express your thoughts appropriately. Furthermore, it is always very crude and impolite to be vulgar.

Do not speak loudly
When you speak loudly, it raises the stress level among company. It always implies that you can't reason with people and rely on "brute force" to get your point across. It also draws attention -- negative attention.

Do not lose your temper
When you lose your temper, you are showing everyone that you can't control your emotions. If you can't even control yourself, then how can you possibly control anything else? Keep your cool at all times (it won't be easy but it is worth the effort) and people will take positive note of your levelheadedness.

Do not stare
Ogling someone is the equivalent of psychological aggression. You don't want to intimidate people for no reason. (It's also disgusting, rude, perverted, and just wrong.)

Do not interrupt
Let people finish what they are saying before adding your comments. Interrupting others is a sign of poor etiquette and a lack of social skills. If you want to come across as egotistical, you can do so by constantly interrupting.

Do not spit
A lot of men do this almost subconsciously. Spitting is very crude and not too pretty to look at. Do not spit in public unless you want to look like you were raised in a sewer.

Respect your elders
In fact, you should respect others as you would like them to respect you. I am specifying elders because it seems that today, young men think they know it all. Well, they don't. Just think of yourself five years ago... you're much smarter and experienced today, aren't you? Of course, yet you thought you knew it all five years ago. Do not laugh at others' mistakes
This is perhaps one of the cruelest things one can do. When you mess up, the last thing you want is for someone not only to bring it to your attention, but to ridicule you on top of that.

Remove your hat indoors
This rule seems to have gone out the window these days. You should remove your headwear upon entering a building. Furthermore, never keep your hat on while at the dinner table. It reflects very poor etiquette.

Wait for seating before eating
When sitting down for a meal, you should wait until all the guests are properly seated and ready to commence the meal before eating. Everyone should start dining at the same time; this is a subtle but very important rule.

the basics of chivalry


In addition to the aforementioned rules, gentlemen (in training) should follow these additional rules when in the presence of a lady. Chivalry may be on life support, but it is not dead yet. Be one of the few to keep this flame burning for many years to come.
Always open doors
This is perhaps the most basic rule of male etiquette out there. It is also one of the easiest to follow so you have no reason to forget it. Whether she is about to enter your car, restaurant, club, or anyplace with a door, you should always hold it open. If there are many doors, then hold them open one after the other.

Put on her coat
Always help a lady put on her coat or overgarment. This is a simple but powerful action.

Help with her seat
If an unaccompanied lady is sitting next to you, it is important that you help her be seated by pulling her chair out for her and gently pushing it back into place, with the lady seated of course.

Give up your seat
If a lady arrives at the table and there are no available seats, you should stand up and offer yours to her.

Stand at attention
Always stand when a lady enters or exits the room. This rule has been somewhat relaxed, so you can stand upon entrance but remain seated upon exit. Nonetheless, if you can do both, you should.

Give her your arm
When escorting a lady (that you know) to and from social events, you should offer her your arm. This is a little more intimate, but serves well when walking on uneven ground -- especially if she's wearing high heels.

Ask if she needs anything
This is one that most guys already do, but helps complete the gentleman in all of us nevertheless. When at social events, make sure to ask the lady if you can get her something to drink (or eat, depending on the event). Show her that you care about her comfort and needs.

 
At 27/4/06 2:56 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Ayre,

If you don't put up a link to where you found that, unless you wrote it, I will have to delete it.

 
At 27/4/06 3:06 PM, Blogger Ayre said...

http://spaces.msn.com/Elikapeka/

 
At 27/4/06 3:10 PM, Blogger Ayre said...

Also, if you actually read what I posted, you'll find that the article originally comes from askmen.com. But you didn't read it, otherwise you'd know that.

 
At 27/4/06 3:16 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I skimmed it looking for the link. Thanks.

 
At 27/4/06 4:05 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

See. This is reasons why I'm so glad I'm not all into religion anymore; my family is Catholic (which I SHOULD be, I just don't really like this whole 'faith and religion' stuff.)

And I already have front row seats and a nice little condo down in hell, by the Lake of Firey Abyss~!

 
At 27/4/06 4:20 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I assume by "Catholic" you mean Papist? Why SHOULD you be a Papist?

Unless you WANT to go to Hell?

 
At 27/4/06 4:22 PM, Blogger Kira said...

Oh dear.
I believe someone is misinformed about the work of whores.
Also about the work of women.
Also about what pleases Jesus.

 
At 27/4/06 4:45 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

I assume by "Catholic" you mean Papist? Why SHOULD you be a Papist?

Roman Catholic, actually. Pretty shiny little religion, there. But we (they, actually) don't attend church that much because, you know, God and Jesus is everywhere; you don't have to go to one set place to pray to either of them. You can do it in the comfort of your own home, your car...hell, you can even pray in a ditch and they'll still be there to hear your prayer. Or, so, that is what my grandpa taught and told me.

And I believe me grandfather. He is a wise man.


Unless you WANT to go to Hell?

Hmm... You know, that's a toughie! Do I wanna go to hell or do I not wanna go to hell. That, right there folks, is the question.

 
At 27/4/06 5:03 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Don't try to spread your Papist BULLSHIT here. You're NOT CHRISTIAN if you exclude people from the communion table.

Period. And if you worship a man, like the POPE, you're going straight to Hell.

 
At 27/4/06 5:10 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

Don't try to spread your Papist BULLSHIT here. You're NOT CHRISTIAN if you exclude people from the communion table.

Ouch, retract those claws pussy cat. I'm not trying to spread anything, I just said it was all. No need to get all hostile and jump me like I'm some sort of wolf in sheeps clothing.

Does it matter if a person is not Christian or anything? No, not really.

Period. And if you worship a man, like the POPE, you're going straight to Hell.

Lady, I don't worship ANYONE. The pope amuses the crap out of me, especially the new one we have.

 
At 27/4/06 5:25 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

LOL! You're going on about your "wise grandfather" and your "papists don't attend church" PROPAGANDA.

Papists are FORCED to give 10 percent of their earnings to the church! To the same church that happens to be the LARGEST landowner in the WORLD. And if you think I'll let your papist propaganda go un-denounced, you've got another thing coming.

I AM VIGILANT FOR THE LORD!

VIGILANT!

 
At 27/4/06 5:30 PM, Blogger Jenna said...

Wow Annie you are compleatly off your rocker.

Not only are you degrading women in this, your degrading yourself.

*shrug* I dont know whats worse that you just screwed up your karma so bad that you'll make your kids look bad later on.

I know you dont believe in Karma. You just believe that Jesus and God will save you. Life is about choices, and free will. For the Devil is the only one who will take your free agency away from you, for that is his plan.

"A fat husband is a faithful husband" That line makes no sence. For the husband according to your views is the God of the household. I view people as equal beings. Everyone's equal in my eyes. Why are you bringing yourself lower than your husband. It makes no sence I'm just trying to see your point here.

Whores are people too. And why do you degrade people by what choices they make in their life. Its this attitude that "Stereotypical Christian women" adopt. The judgemental ways that I dont ever understand. Is it your job to judge us? No~ Thats Gods job.

God has the right to judge, not you. So please if your a true christian woman, and a woman of God, choose your words carefully. Women of God are suppost to be humble, Non judgemental, loving, caring, kind, and overall the mothers of the future generation. Our job is a busy one, but please Jugding is for God to do when we die and go to heaven. For our life is a trail, a journey that we endure, for any particular reason.

Please take what i say in mind. I dont want you calling me a whore. I'm offering constructive Critisism. And please open up your mind to other possibilities. Perhaps your husband would like you to become not his slave...but his equal.

Thank you..have a good day.

 
At 27/4/06 5:32 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

Lady, you're making me laugh so damn hard right now. I don't think I've been this amused for a looong time.

And...be as vigilant as you want. You're just a really rabid Christian, that's all.


Oh, and lady, I got a question for you: Do you really think Bush talk to God?

'cause...that's a bunch of Bullshit there if I ever saw a bull take a shit.

 
At 27/4/06 5:41 PM, Blogger Jennifer L. said...

To put it bluntly, Annie, there is no biblical basis for anything in this post. A lot of people point and laugh, but my most overwhelming reaction is sadness that any of my fellow Christian women would hide away their God-given talents for false teachings such as these.

 
At 27/4/06 5:41 PM, Blogger Jenna said...

citadel I agree with you. Man this lady is full of herself.

Ohhh~ Annie I think your husband needs something of you~ Shouldnt you get off the computer~and go serve him some cookies. ^.^~ Cause remember A fat husband is a faithful husband. >>;;

Ugh. Sorry but I dont agree with you annie.

 
At 27/4/06 5:45 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

You're a bunch of envious bitches who have no clue about ANYTHING!

I DON'T CARE if you agree with me! Actually, the fact that you don't makes me HAPPY! You are the EXACT opposite of DECENT WOMEN!

YOU are the judgemental ones! You are the ones who in your PRIDE think that you know better than God!

I hope you NEVER repent!

 
At 27/4/06 5:51 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

Oh, yes. Why, I am so envious that I'm not as decent as a woman as you are. I'm so envious that I can't cater to a man in that way, be the PERFECT wife.

And, lady? I never judged, you're the one doing the judging at the moment; I never thought I was better than "God" because, you know, no one can be better than "God"

Ch. Repenting is for losers. All the cool kids are going to hell.


(But, lady, isn't it SIN to NOT FORGIVE people?)

 
At 27/4/06 5:52 PM, Blogger Jenna said...

You're a bunch of envious bitches who have no clue about ANYTHING!

I DON'T CARE if you agree with me! Actually, the fact that you don't makes me HAPPY! You are the EXACT opposite of DECENT WOMEN!

YOU are the judgemental ones! You are the ones who in your PRIDE think that you know better than God!

I hope you NEVER repent!


Yep...The same stereotypical Christian woman who doesnt take any constructive critisism. What did I say about how a True Christian woman acts.

I'm not envious. Infact I'm very happy with my boyfriend, who is a kind gentleman who loves me for who I am.

Y'know I'm LDS. Thats where I get my views. I tried to be respectful of yours. You dont understand what respect really is. Yet you respect your husband.

Jesus wont damn me to hell. Neither will God. And neither will you. Save your prayers, I dont need them. You need to pray for yourself, and search within yourself for real answers. Wash that makeup off of your face, and make yourself real for your husband. Perhaps he'll see the new vaunerable side of you and trust you more.

You're acting too fake for your own good. Try to be more real with your feelings and real with your husband. This fake stuff will only get you so far.

Please take my advice. It'll make you less stressed out and more at ease with yourself.

Or whatever...you can choose for yourself. Its your life. I'm just asking for you to take constructive critisism. Which you wont. Your free agency.

 
At 27/4/06 6:00 PM, Blogger Jenna said...

Oh and another thing.

Calling people names and judging us isnt christian like..

You're also going to hell lady. Please re-read the bible, perhaps you'll learn something about THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

@__@I'm just trying to help you and you have to make me feel like I've done the wrong thing to help you.

Please stop damning yourself and help others up instead of bringing yourself lower.

 
At 27/4/06 6:02 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

MORMONS!!!

LOL! I learned about your religion on South Park.

Your guy was a SCAMMER who was killed in a jailcell!

He got his "scripture" from the Sorting Hat! HARRY POTTER IS SATAN'S LITTLE MESSENGER!!

Moroni-ites are NOT CHRISTIANS!

Are you wearing your sacred undies? If not then according to your religion YOU'RE A WHORE!!

Oh, this is so funny!! I'm laughing fit to split!

 
At 27/4/06 6:03 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS!

GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN!

 
At 27/4/06 6:07 PM, Blogger Jenna said...

LMAO SOUTH PARK IS STUPID!

THAT SHOW IS SATAN ROFLMAO

Besides Mormon's are JUST like you guys. Judgemental and moronic.

Think what you want. You're going to hell too. And Your god IS satan. Kay I'm leaving now. BYE

 
At 27/4/06 6:09 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

... you is one crazy bitch.

Maybe you should, uh, think about checking into therapy?

 
At 27/4/06 6:12 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Maybe you should think about finding a religion that isn't a cult?

How many sister-wives do you have?

 
At 27/4/06 6:15 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

Maybe you should think about finding a religion that isn't a cult?

How many sister-wives do you have?


I'm not really a part of a religion, crazy-lady. Didn't I sort of say that a little earlier in one of my previous replies? Yes, yes I think I did.

And cults are FUN! You should think of joining one~ All it costs is your soul.

...and I'm an only child. I have no sister-wives. Damn! I really wish I did, though! You know anyone looking for one? :D

 
At 27/4/06 6:15 PM, Blogger Jenna said...

I have no sister wives ms. We stopped that way back in the 18 hundreds.

Get your head out of the 50's stop listening to TOOL and other devil bands and start living in the "TODAY" ever heard of it.

K THX BAI

 
At 27/4/06 6:26 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Yeah, you'll show me when your Husband is dead and is "god" of his our planet and you're just one of his many spirit wives pumping out spirit babies to populate his new world. :D

Hope you got wide hips!

 
At 27/4/06 6:27 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Of his "own" planet, that should read. Cuz like, men get their own planets in Mormon heaven. :D

 
At 27/4/06 6:37 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

I'm laughing at your reply, mainly 'cause of how bat-shit crazy it is, but also because I don't have a husband.

And Lady...you never answered my earlier question: Do you really think Bush talk to God?

 
At 27/4/06 6:38 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I think anyone can talk to God.

 
At 27/4/06 6:40 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

Oh, yes. Anyone can talk to god. But he acts as if he's the MESSANGER of God. Saying God told him to do this and told him that.

It makes me chuckle at how fucking stupid out country was when we re-elected him.

 
At 27/4/06 6:55 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

You think that the majority of Americans are stupid? Excuse me, fucking stupid?

I think you're stoopid. TAKE THAT!

 
At 27/4/06 7:38 PM, Blogger Me. said...

So what does Jesus think of you killing your husband? Yes you are killing him, clogging his arteries with all those snacks and rich deserts to make him fat. Maybe you should start thinking up a post about how to be a good widow soon. Or research tasty recipes that are low fat and low cal. And what would you do if your husband wanted YOU to ask for sex?

 
At 27/4/06 7:43 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I must have missed where I advised women to force food down their Husband's throats.

 
At 27/4/06 8:03 PM, Blogger meschian said...

This is the most brilliant post EVER!!! Whether Annie is for real or she's doing this to attract attention - well, it doesn't matter, it's equally disturbing either way. Ironically, we all fell for the trap, and gave her that much-needed attention!!!! Annie - 1, the rest of us - 0.

But that's not the point. There are ignorant people all over the world that are lagging behind the majority of civilization. Let's not waste our time on them.

Come to think of it, though, it's not Annie - 1, us - 0. She's the one that doesn't have a life... :(

Annie, why don't you use your brains towards something productive? Seriously, why?

 
At 27/4/06 8:06 PM, Blogger Rebekah said...

Why would you say that women who use frozen orange juice and initiate intimacy with their husbands are whores? That is highly offensive, to put it mildly.

 
At 27/4/06 8:09 PM, Blogger Me. said...

Oh so sorry, I didn't know your husband is a lumberjack. Then he needs all those calories. I say you make him some cookies right now. But does a lumberjack really never want YOU to jump him? And the legs on your blog are great as well as those naked torsos.

 
At 27/4/06 8:16 PM, Blogger meschian said...

You know what? Nevermind... now that I have examined your site more closely, it seems like you're having a blast with it. I still think there are much better ways to have fun and use your brains (which you obviously have a ton of)... but I'm starting to see how it could be fun receiving a ton of mail from morons, asking for your advice, and then giving them that advice that often surpasses their own idiotism.

 
At 27/4/06 8:19 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Is idiotism a word?

Why do you people have a problem with Christian women living a proper decent life which promotes family values and a strong society, both economically and culturally?

 
At 27/4/06 8:45 PM, Blogger FutureFoodTVStar said...

Quote # 3

3. DO NOT be a clingy wife! Your Husband has a lot on his minds in the morning, planning out his busy day. Do not try to engage him in conversation about what your plans for the day are or other trivial matters. Always walk him to the door. Make sure to carry with you any of the things he has forgetton so he doesn't need to go back for them. Offer yourself for a kiss, but if he is too busy to notice DO NOT POUT. He has a lot of responsibility and the morning is not the time for feminine hysterics.

This just goes to show you how much attention is paid when 158 people read your post and leave comments.

Just exactly HOW MANY MINDS DOES YOUR HUSBAND HAVE?

P.S. George Duh-Bull-Ewe Shrub is the Anti-Christ and he is taking us all to hell. Hope you are ready to burn. And I guarantee that Lucifer only serves Frozen Orange Juice.

 
At 27/4/06 8:47 PM, Blogger Lazy Lightning said...

AnnieAngel said...
"I figured you were just trying to be PC with your bullshit about how you agree what women do at home is important.
...
Fuck Dear Abby! What is wrong with you? Go to a religious board somewhere and tell the Christians off, ok, Tanya?
...
You think that the majority of Americans are stupid? Excuse me, fucking stupid?"


I bet Jesus and your husband aren't pleased when you use such foul language. Doesn't your husband get disturbed by your sailor mouth when he's trying to read the morning paper? I guess as long as the orange juice is fresh and you don't initiate sex though, you've already got your ticket to heaven.

 
At 27/4/06 8:53 PM, Blogger Kara said...

Lady. DO YOU HAVE A LIFE?!?! waiting on your husband hand and foot. GOD PLEASE! Smite this woman. how can any woman do this every day without over docing on vicadin?!?!?!

 
At 27/4/06 9:00 PM, Blogger meschian said...

Yes, idiotism is a word... just look it up! :)

I actually am Christian myself (the real kind, not the crazy "middle America" kind). I am also happily married and hope to have wonderful children someday. I do believe that the woman is the backbone of the family. I agree that American women have over-done the whole "I'm independent" bullshit. We need men, and men need us. I am also a feminist, as I believe in equality (but not sameness) of the sexes.

The question here is what makes YOU dislike those poor ignorant women so much that you have to go make a fake blog?

 
At 27/4/06 9:00 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

I don't need drugs to handle my household. You must be a very weak woman, kara!

FutureSonicWorker, thanks for pointing out my typo. I'll fix it so you'll be able to sleep tonight.

No one can take anyone with them to Hell. As Shakespeare said, "Everyman's duty is to the King, but everyman's soul is his own." Might not be an exact quote but it's close.

 
At 27/4/06 9:02 PM, Blogger FutureFoodTVStar said...

Well. Thank you very much. I would much rather work at Sonic than sit at home waiting for some fat slob that cant take care of himself.

 
At 27/4/06 9:03 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Fake blog? I've had enough of the fake blog shit. It used to be PAID BLOG!! And NSA!!! Now it's FAKE BLOG!!

Take your envy and shove it. I'm going to consider remarks that this blog is fake to be smears on the characters of the commentators and ask that these comments be removed in the future.

Be polite or fuck off.

 
At 27/4/06 9:03 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Foodface,

And you will!

 
At 27/4/06 9:16 PM, Blogger FutureFoodTVStar said...

If you truly consider yourself a Christian then this world as a whole is in some serious trouble.

Only someone brainwashed by the lies and terroristic philosophies of the AntiChristBush himself, would post a list of this nature, claiming to be a Christian, and then trolling thru the comments with nothing but namecalling and explicit words.

You, my dear, need some serious help.

 
At 27/4/06 9:20 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

You're calling Bush the Anti-Christ and you think I'm the one who needs help?

LOL!

 
At 27/4/06 9:25 PM, Blogger Kate said...

I have a question--don't you assume that a woman will be a stay-at-home mom? I am in the process of becoming an attorney (in my 3d year of law school), and I am a woman. Your whole post, if it is serious and not some kind of April Fool's joke, assumes that the wife will not be working. However, in today's economy, that's simply not viable for most people. How do you reconcile the realities of economics with this paradigm of womanhood you have set up? And is it your belief that women should not work outside the home?

 
At 27/4/06 9:31 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Women working outside the home is the reason that women "need" to work outside the home.

Women in the work force is ruining our society.

 
At 27/4/06 9:37 PM, Blogger FutureFoodTVStar said...

Nope, its is the RepubliCROOKS and WarMongers that are ruining our society.

 
At 27/4/06 9:39 PM, Blogger Kate said...

So wait--what denomination of Christian are you?

 
At 27/4/06 9:42 PM, Blogger Kate said...

Wait just a second! What's with that icon, AnnieAngel?!? I'm trying to reconcile your foul language and slutty icon with your professed Christian beliefs, and it's not adding up. This whole thing has gotta be a joke--a woman with a trucker mouth and slutty icon masquerading as an conservative Christian?

 
At 27/4/06 9:45 PM, Blogger FutureFoodTVStar said...

Kate

Obviously, the reason she can not initiate sex is she doesn't want her husband to see those thunderthighs that are carefully disguised with the high heel shoes and creative cropping.

 
At 27/4/06 9:47 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Slutty icon? How is a picture of my legs slutty?

Because they're sexy?

Professed beliefs?

I love it, the trolls come on judging me for in their mind judging others and then they top it all off by judging my character by my legs!!

I think you're all on drugs.

 
At 27/4/06 9:49 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Ohhh, can you feel the envy, dear lurkers? Can you smell the twinkie sweat rolling down Futurefatgirls pudgy little face?

:)

 
At 27/4/06 9:53 PM, Blogger Kate said...

Hey, I'm not judging you for judging others. As I said, I'm just trying to reconcile your conservative Christian viewpoints with a picture that is, yes, sexually suggestive--a woman's bare legs all the way up to her hip. I'm not judging your character by your legs, Annie. However, what picture you use as your icon, which is the image you have chosen to represent you, contradicts a woman who is conservative, Christian, and not supposed to initiate sex or be a slut.

 
At 27/4/06 9:58 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

So now that picture makes me a slut?

You're burying yourself in the hole you thought you were digging for me, kate. :)

 
At 27/4/06 10:00 PM, Blogger Kate said...

I don't know if you are a slut. I do know that your picture is a bit on the slutty side.

 
At 27/4/06 10:06 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

No it's not. It's your mind that makes a simple picture of a pair of legs, "slutty."

I'm famous for my legs. They're the best on the net.

 
At 27/4/06 10:36 PM, Blogger Citadel said...

You think that the majority of Americans are stupid? Excuse me, fucking stupid?

I think you're stoopid. TAKE THAT!


Wow. I wish I was as mature as you were right there!

I'm famous for my legs. They're the best on the net.

...I've seen better.

 
At 27/4/06 10:42 PM, Blogger Rebekah said...

Seriously, please answer the question I left above. Especially with regards to women initiating sex with their husbands being whores. Please explain.

 
At 27/4/06 10:46 PM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Whores use sex for their own personal gain. When you initiate sex, you are thinking about your selfish desires and not about your Husband. If he wants sex, he'll let you know.

 
At 27/4/06 10:52 PM, Blogger Rebekah said...

And you don't think that asking your husband to be intimate would please him greatly? In my experience with my DH, when I initiate intimacy with him, he feels loved and cared for and that I find HIM sexy ... never once do I think that it would cross a man's mind that his wife was being selfish! He can say no if he's not interested.

 
At 27/4/06 11:21 PM, Blogger simplcomplxn said...

annie

You are a pathetic excuse for a Christian. Who are you to place judgement on others? You're not God!
Even Jesus ate with the taxpayers and prostitutes- would you ever do that? I think not.

Let's just hope your husband doesn't cheat on you behind your back and your kids aren't actually drug dealers, because that would just ruin your picture-perfect family, wouldn't it? Take off your blindfold and re-evaluate yourself instead of other people for a change.

Please share love instead of judgement, thank you.

And really, the last time I checked, Christians don't cuss.

 
At 28/4/06 12:53 AM, Blogger Bente said...

I just looked at her other site and I really don't think this is serious anymore.

Annie, you're not even married?

 
At 28/4/06 5:27 AM, Blogger Andrea said...

You're a freak.

 
At 28/4/06 6:58 AM, Blogger shellibells said...

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At 28/4/06 7:00 AM, Blogger shellibells said...

Let me first start out by saying this is your blog and you chose to do what you wish and say what you wish with your space.

At the same token you also leave your comments open for people to bash you, so expect it when you spew ignorant nonsense from your mouth.

As a Christian woman I am mortified by what you have written in regards to being Christian and the way your household (and you) are run.

You are quite apparantly brainwashed- please do not blame Jesus for this. His sacrafices were for our sins, not your stupidity. What you call "A good Christian wife" is actually a discrace to all woman and maybe it is your fellow readers that should be praying over you.

Oh, and by the way, did you just call me a whore?

 
At 28/4/06 7:17 AM, Blogger IamHere said...

1st off...this is your blog and you are entitled to your own opinions, thoughts, etc.

2nd I respect that and I am glad I am also given the opportunity to comment on your blog as well!

3rd God created Eve from Adams RIB to be BESIDE him, not to be his slave below him.

4th Are you in a cult because I don't know any Christians that think like this.

5th I can't believe how many people you called a whore...what about not judging people. God did not give you the right to judge people, especially not by them using frozen juice instead of fresh squeezed. Only God shall judge, not you and not me.

6th Thanks for giving me this opportunity to comment!

 
At 28/4/06 7:26 AM, Blogger gracielou said...

Wow...this is beyond creepy. I keep forgetting that people actually THINK this way.

What a sad, sad place Heaven would be if only "those choosen few" were there.

I truly feel sad for people in this mindset. How unhappy they must really be.

I DO completely respect women who are a SAHM/Wife. Who make that their number one priority in life. But actually taking this "list" seriously? Oy.

I've been SOOO VERY blessed with a husband who is a life partner. Who cooks (amazing cook!), who helps do dishes, who helps takes care of the kids, always shows the kids and I how much he TRULY loves us. NEVER treats us like second class citizens. And boy oh boy would he LOVE it if I were his "WHORE". He gets upset when I DON'T instigate! ;)

Anyway, I'm betting there far fewer happy marriages that live by the above list than there are who do not!

It's been an interesting...and yet unnerving...thread to read.

g.l.

 
At 28/4/06 7:43 AM, Blogger Kate said...

"No it's not. It's your mind that makes a simple picture of a pair of legs, 'slutty.'"
--Actually, Annie, it's not my mind but standards of decorum set by our society that makes a picture of a woman's bare legs--from her high-heeled shoes to her uncovered hip--slutty. The very same society that makes "baggy clothing that exposes a boy's bottom" inappropriate.



"I'm famous for my legs. They're the best on the net."
--Oh you! Now I know you're a Christian, because you could only make that claim if you haven't seen the legs of the other women on the Internet! LOL.

 
At 28/4/06 7:49 AM, Blogger Lazy Lightning said...

Annie - you've said in a couple of the comments that you do feel that a husband and wife are equal partners, and that the work a woman does to take care of the family and household is just as important as the work a man does to support the family with his job.

You also made a reference to families who send kids to daycare being dysfunctional.

So since the two types of work are equal, how do you feel about a woman with a high paying corporate job, while her husband chooses to stay home and do the housework and primary parenting?

 
At 28/4/06 8:05 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Simple said,
You are a pathetic excuse for a Christian. Who are you to place judgement on others? You're not God!
Even Jesus ate with the taxpayers and prostitutes- would you ever do that? I think not.


Of course I've eaten with prostitues. I street missioned for YEARS. I still do on occasion.

You are judging me personally, based on information you pulled out of your ass. You fucking hypocrite.

 
At 28/4/06 8:10 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

My avatar was taken in my yard and I NEVER expected the hissing-hordes-of-uglies to flip out as much as they have. Nor did I expect the repeated comments that I HAVE THE BEST LEGS ON THE INTERNET.

Both can't be true, and well....you have obviously equated sexy FOR AN ADULT with SLUTTY....therefore you're creating a double standard for pretty girls.

I don't think you wear long pants all summer. Or maybe you do...I can help you with some suggestions to get in shape and eat right if you'd like....

 
At 28/4/06 8:27 AM, Blogger Kate said...

"Created a double standard for pretty girls?" LOL--I think it's pretty clear that is not what I'm saying.

Of course I don't wear long pants all summer, Annie. But I also don't wear skirts/shorts that reveal my legs up to my hip--my bottom would be hanging out, and that's not very ladylike, classy, or Christian. A Christian woman should exhibit some modesty, I do believe.

 
At 28/4/06 8:52 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

If your "bottom" would hang out of shorts you REALLY need to get to a gym! You can fix that with a bit of exercise!

 
At 28/4/06 9:25 AM, Blogger Kate said...

LOL--if any one wore shorts that revealed that much of their hip, their bottom would hang out of their shorts.

 
At 28/4/06 10:20 AM, Blogger AnnieAngel said...

Only if they have a saggy, flabby "bottom."

 
At 28/4/06 11:02 AM, Blogger Rebekah said...

Hey Annie ... Can you go back up and address the last comment that I left last night? Interested to hear what you have to say.

Also, wondering how you reconcile using the f-word with the Bible's encouragement for pure speech -- let no unwholesome talk come out of your mouth. =(

 

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